LIVE from Transworld's Halloween & Attractions Show 2024

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Relive some of the best moments from
this year's Transworld Halloween Attraction Show that's coming

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up on today's show. Welcome to
the show. I'm Philip on the HN

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Show. We bring you the news
and information you need to prepare for Halloween.

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This show is one small part of
what we do, and the best

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place to find everything is our free
weekly email newsletter. Check the link for

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that in our website or in the
show notes. Transworld's Halloween an Attraction Show

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is the largest trade show for our
industry, where tens of thousands of Haunters

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gathered yearly in Saint Louis to shop, network and learn. Scott Swinson and

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I sat down on the final day
of Transworld to discuss our thoughts on the

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show, and today I'm playing that
conversation for you. This episode originally aired

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on our companion podcast, Green Tagged
at the Park and thirty, but it's

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definitely something that belongs here. Here
we go in three two one live from

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Saint Louis. This is Green Tagged
at Theme Park in thirty. We are

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here at the Tear Dog. They're
tearing down the trans as we speak,

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as we are recording this very episode. They are taking down the Transworld Halloween,

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Christmas and Immersive Experience show right behind
us and below us. So shame

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you can't see it. Yes,
yes, we went out through all the

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trouble of arranging this glorious studio.
We thought it was a great place and

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the right above tour, but then
we realized that, you know, you

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can't see it because they it's okay, it's okay. I didn't want to

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stand for thirty minutes so you could
see that's okay. Yeah, well it's

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okay. We can barely stand at
all right now. So the purpose of

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this show is to kind of talk
a little bit about what it is or

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why you should attend shows like this, whether it is this trans World show

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or whether it is any other you
know, trade show in the industry.

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Really it doesn't have to be Halloween
themed or Christmas themed or any of those

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things. But I think one of
the first we have to recognize is when

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you go to a show of this
magnitude and of this size, by the

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time it's over, because we are
recording this, like I said, just

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as the show is being torn down, by the time you get to the

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end, you're exhausted, and it's
a running joke because I usually say you

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can hear it in my voice because
I've been talking over Halloween animations and you

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know, trying to do trying to
do business on a very busy and loud

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trade show floor, having people come
up randomly and you know, and say

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hello and it's yeah. And then
Philip, you've been you've been doing content

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creation for not only the show but
also for the network. Correct you can

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see how you can see or hear
how exhausted Philip is. I'm done.

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Yeah. I was one of the
co chairs and producing for the OSCARS event

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and then working for the show,
and then also trying to do coverage of

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my own, and it didn't work
out because I like Scott's plan better,

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which is to show up and let
opportunities happen. And I was like,

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already had too much of a schedule
before I showed up. And then it

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just got worse because what happens is, you know, you're going to this

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booth to get this testimonial for you
know, the show, commercial or whatnot,

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and of course there are all the
people Ben Armstrong and Michael you know,

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all these people who are different.
You know they you have to wait.

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But then while you're waiting, then
other people will find you and it

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just becomes well, yeah, the
people worth getting interviews with. Yeah,

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everybody wants to get interviews with and
they're very busy. And then you see

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other people and you don't move five
feet and exactly exactly, well, yeah,

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the whole idea of not planning.
So there's there's multiple ways to do

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this, Philip is the is the
is the planner. But again, you

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also had specific stuff that you had
to get accomplished here. Yeah, my

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approach actually came from a very dear
friend of mine, and I know there

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are many listeners who knew her,
a woman by the name of Robbie La

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Prix. Robbie would be I'm gonna
be on the show floor from here to

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here, and then after that,
we'll see what happens and we'll just let

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the whatever whatever may happen, happens. And that wait, it doesn't push

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anything out of the way. It
doesn't, you know, adjust, It

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doesn't create the domino effect of you
know, I'm gonna screw up my whole

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schedule. But there is so much
to be done at a show of this

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size, and I'll be honest,
this is this is probably the largest trans

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World show I can remember. I
don't know what the data is or what

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the numbers are, but the Halloween
section was gigantic this year. The number

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of people here was huge, and
so you know, congratulations to the trans

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World folks for getting for putting together
this massive behemoth. And it's not just

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the trade show floor, of course, there's all these other events that take

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place surrounding surrounding the trade show,
and it's because of all those that we

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get so incredibly wiped and exhausted.
CA Yeah, it's this year. I

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agree. The show itself feels larger, and there feel and there's also seems

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like there's more people. And I
know that it is physically larger because last

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year it didn't fit. It didn't
fill the entire a convention center, you

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know, I mean there was like
a few areas that were kind of you

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know, roped off or you know, and here this year, the Christmas

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section goes all the way to the
end. There's the drone folks that were

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for any ADAYAPPA who were doing drone
shows in the convention center at the back

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corner. And speaking of the mixers
as well, you know, they do

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mixers for each segment so you have
your Christmas mixers, you have here,

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so there's the big, big,
the big Halloween party. Yeah, so

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there's the big things, the City
Museum, which is kind of mixed of

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everybody, but then you had your
interactive there was a whole interactive game,

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you know. So it's like each
group has their own mixers. And then

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the show floor is also massive,
so it's there's it's a lot, yeah,

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and that's and then there's that's and
that's just the officially sanctioned things.

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Then you've just got a bunch of
people launters showing up and hanging out at

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the at the Marriott Hotel lobby.
So uh yeah, yeah, So it's

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it's a there's, there's, there's, there's always something to do if you

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have the energy to do it.
So yeah, I would strongly recommend trying

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to pace yourself as much as possible, only because you're not going to be

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able to So if you at least
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might come a little bit closer.
I don't know. I don't know,

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but the other things that we get
from shows like this, and I know

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that Philip and I are coming from
different slightly different standpoints here because we come

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to these shows for slightly different reasons, but one of the primary things for

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me is networking. It's a great
opportunity for me to catch up with clients

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that I've had in the past,
for me to help clients that I'm currently

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working with to see what the show
is all about, and maybe because of

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my knowledge of certain vendors, or
we see something together that they really like,

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I get a better understanding of what
they're looking for and what they want

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to purchase, so we can work
that into the creative and then of course

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there's always the possibility that I'll meet
somebody who wants to work with me in

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the future. So it's kind of
a it's kind of a great networking opportunity.

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And I will say even more so
than Ayappa, I think. I

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think this show it is easier to
network because people will talk to you almost

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instantly. I mean, and they'll
and they'll start a conversation just because they

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see that you have your your lanyard
on, or or you know you're looking

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at you're both looking at the same
prop I think it specifically, it feels

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like there's more relatability here absolutely,
because Ayapa it is a very wide range.

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You don't know if they're a museum
or an fec or if they're a

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consultant or a fabricator or a designer
or Blue Sky or it is so many,

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but I think here there are all
of those folks as well. But

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you all know that you are somehow
involved in Christmas or Halloween. Yeah,

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there's a lens. There's a lens
that you want, so you can already

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kind of you can kind of use
that as a way to to you know,

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make it a little bit more approachable
for people. And yeah, the

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networking, I wish I planned networking
out more. I think I think Scott's

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approach of doing that is better.
And you know a lot of people plan

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out dinners or plan to see their
clients or in some way or another,

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and I think that I think a
little bit of that is good. You

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know, I do networking by happenstance
and and you know, and and you

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know, just I do have clients, and you know, my all my

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clients were here. And then it's
that thing where it's it's like forced networking,

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like I'm on my way to shoot
a thing and then you'll see somebody

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who is like I want to have
you come out and do stuff at our

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haunt this year, and you'll like
pull you aside and we'll try and have

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that conversation. But it'd be it'd
have been better to have, I think,

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have it a little bit more organized, rather than me just you know,

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catching them as I'm walking to something
else. Sure, sure, So

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do you think do you think that
I think I'm I think the answer to

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this is pretty obvious. But do
you feel as though, in order to

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get all the stuff you wanted to
get accomplished in this show, that you

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actually were over committed before you even
arrived? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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I think it's a weird thing.
So I actually talked to a few people

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about this concept where you know,
some people I've only seen here at the

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show ever, right, but you've
seen them for two or three years,

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but it kind of feels like you
know them. And I was like,

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we really don't don't know each other. Actually we've only met twice, you

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know it. But it's that weird
thing where I think so many people leave

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so much up to trans world and
that they're like, oh, well,

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we'll catch you a trend, you
know, there's always trans Like it's kind

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of like that thing and I'm like, well, you know, I think

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maybe we should try and do a
little bit more before, a little bit

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more after. Yeahutely. Well,
And to be honest, you know,

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I've been coming to the show for
over twenty years and there are people that

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I only know from the twenty I've
met them twenty times at this show.

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At the show. Yeah, so
yeah, I totally hear that. I

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Also, the other conversation that we
have quite often with many people here is

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you realize we live really close to
one another. Why don't we see each

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other outside of this show. I
had that conversation at least twice that I

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know the the top of my head. Yeah, yeah, and we don't.

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The one thing I will say,
though, that has been great,

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and I know Philip and I both
experienced this is how many of our listeners

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actually came up to us and said, God, I love the show and

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we're really happy that you keep doing
it. And so I know that we

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want to really thank you guys for
coming up and saying hello and talking about

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the show and saying how much you
enjoy it, because what that does is

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it allows us to and then you'll
tell us what you like about it,

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so it helps us kind of make
sure we're staying on we're staying true to

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why we do this show. And
apparently it's working at least for those of

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you who are brave enough to come
up and talk to us. And I

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really appreciate that. But I've had
it happen, you know, several times,

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and I love it. I really
encourage it. So if you ever

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see me, I won't speak for
Philip because he's usually carrying a camera and

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trying to get some footage of something, please stop me. Though I do

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enjoy that, but just to keep
your sanity, it's like, yeah,

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something I on that that I want
to mention to. I think, if

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anything, this thing has gotten worse
this year. But it's like I think

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that the best thing is to,
you know, come to the show,

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but leave you know, opportunity room
from but do what you can ahead of

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time so that you're not relying on
trying to get so much done during the

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show because it's too much. And
also then you're gonna miss the networking and

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this stuff that's that's you can only
get here. So for example, if

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you know what you're gonna buy,
buy it before you get to the show

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and then pick it up here or
you know, say hi to them,

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whatever, But but then use the
show time to find those really new innovative

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things that you wouldn't have known about. But you know, if you know

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you're gonna buy an immortal mask and
you're gonna these whatever, and you know

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you're going to do it, then
order it beforehand. And I think that's

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a big thing I've noticed. It's
gotten worse this year, where like the

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tried and true vendors, you know, the ones that you know we're going

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to deliver and that you've worked with
before and then you know what to expect

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from those folks have sold out almost
before the show opened because they had so

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much that came in the first day
or that came in. They're well set

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up, and they've also they've also
done you know with with premiere access or

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VIP access, people actually get into
and I don't know why they did this

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last year because I wasn't here last
year, but uh, there's people who

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have the premiere access or the VIP
access, which is an up charge gets

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them into the onto the show floor
sometimes two hours earlier, two hours earlier

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each day. So for the first
three days there Frey Saturday, it's two

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hours earlier. Yeah, And the
first day I talked to several vendors and

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I said, how do you like
this? And they said, this is

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great because they had already justified financially
being here, because they had already sold

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a significant amount of the of the
stuff that they had brought. Even if

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it was like display items, they
would, you know, sell them within

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that first two hours. So if
you're looking to, if you haven't purchased

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pre per just like Philip says,
and you're looking to, you want to

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see it first, or touch it
first, or talk to the vendor first,

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or whatever, make sure that you
invest in that premiere access if you

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know you're gonna if you're coming here
to buy, because that is certainly one

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of the reasons to come to a
show like this is to is to buy

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on site. And it gives you
the opportunity to not only buy on site,

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but also to see material that you've
seen in a catalog or online or

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in some YouTube video of somebody else. You can actually be there, talk

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to the vendor and touch the product, see the product, see what it

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really looks like it's in its full
regalia. But if you're going to do

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that, I strongly recommend getting that
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it gets you in early and stuff, as Philip says, stuff sells out

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really really quickly. Yeah, and
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talking to the visitors and the exit, talking to everybody. That is one

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of the largest benefits specifically to a
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is that this is like the products
that you you really kind of you need

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to know what that body looks like. You know, you need to know

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what the mass feels like. You
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a tactile and such a you know, different experience that you need to you

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need to know, And I think
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But you know, I guess I'm
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kind of already know to expect the
quality of those folks distortions. You know

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that disortion is not going to give
you something bad. You know that you're

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not gonna get something bad from immortal. I mean, just know these things.

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So I'm like, use the time
to go to the things you're not

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sure about and verify completely and also
find new people, because well, I

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mean, this is the thing we
talk about to but just like there's only

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so much that can possibly be new
by the nature of the business, correct,

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you know, because if you're it's
kind of like you've already if you're

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already going to do a Halloween thing
in a way, you know, you

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know it's going to be within certain
parameters. And then there's no there's only

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so much you can do with a
mask, right unless you're like attaching a

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bunch of stuff. I mean,
so within reason, you kind of already

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know what to expect. So I
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there's anything truly original and to seek
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novel items are going to be the
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established attraction. You know, It's
like people need different things. Your your

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new folks need to go to the
established vendors to get the instructure, but

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people that have established attractions, they
need something novel to get attention. And

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I want to say that one of
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or when you when we say novel, it doesn't necessarily mean I just want

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to point this out. It doesn't
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there may have been an upgrade or
an improvement to make it feel better,

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to make it more durable, to
make it more wearable, like, for

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example, with masks. I know
that with silicone masks, for example,

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there are so I can remember the
very first time a silicone mask vendor appeared

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at trans World, and everybody thought
it was the coolest thing in the world

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because Latex just silicone does so much
more than what Latex could ever hope to

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do, and they were just bombarded. But what I've seen now is with

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more and more silicone mask vendors or
silicon prop producers, the real innovation to

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me is how wearable they are,
how comfortable they are. And so being

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here, you know you've got your
tried and true and you know that that

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XYZ company is going to provide a
great quality products. You can pre order

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that. But while you're here,
it also gives you the oppertunity to see

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if either that company or other companies
around them have found a way to make

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them more comfortable, more wearable for
a longer period of time. They're all

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going to look great. You just
have to next look at the next level

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then, and that and that you
can really only do in person. You

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know, you can't. You can't
try on a mask online, so it

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gives you the opportunity to get that
accomplished. I love the fact that,

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you know, we do get to
see new products, but new products means

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different things to different people, you
know, as you say, if you

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if you're brand new, a new
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floor if you've got an extension,
if you've been working at it for many,

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many years. The first thing I
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I just walk really quick. I
just walk up and down each aisle,

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and I can tell what's new because
it strikes me as wait, I've never

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seen that before. Yeah, I
really like that as a method. It's

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I didn't get a chance to do
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I just did that. I did
my fast walk today because I had a

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previously I had to work through.
But I like the idea of going a

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show like this where there's so much
any iopa as well. You know,

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yeah, you're oh, I do
the same thing there. You need to

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go very fast and whatever catches your
attention. It's good because it's the same

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thing as a guest, right who's
being completely bombarded. And so for me,

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you know, some of the things
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even though they weren't necessarily like new, like you said, but they you

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know is I'm always impressed by the
Stilty Studios costumes because you know, they're

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the colors, the novelty of it, and that is something that makes you

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take a second look even when you're
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that's going to do great in a
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the Silicon Grub from the Sidered Effects

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Silicon Grub, I tell you the
Silicon Grub. The thing I liked about

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that is they actually uh sort of
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show, and they basically invited you
that was there. That was the where

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Krispy Kreme Hamburger I don't know.
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completely weird that you had to come
see, And so they pre announced it

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on social media and then when you
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up front center and everybody who had
seen it online walked up, including me,

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walked up, picked it up,
cradled it like a baby, held

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it and was like, this is
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only the advantage to do a pre
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but also those people who were teetering
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prop it's really cool. Give them

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the opportunity to hold it, see
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was immediately a conversation starter, so
they could turn around and let people know

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about other products that they had to
offer, So that was cool. The

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other thing, over and above the
whole buying and selling and the whole networking

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side, the thing that I really
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recognition of excellence. And since Philip
worked so very hard on producing the Oscar

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Award for on Attraction Association and I
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for them, it was really really
cool to see a packed ballroom. I

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don't think that's an overstatement. There
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They actually had to pull chairs from
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to recognize the best of the best, and it was from from my perspective,

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it was really watching a bunch of
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applaud it. Which was super cool. And you know, of course Ben

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Armstrong receiving the Lifetime Achievement Award is
huge. Anybody who knows Ben Special Director's

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Award going to to Nick and Beverly
Pappus's as the cheerleaders are. The Canon

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what was his last name? I
know him Beasley? Yeah, Canon Beasley

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with the Make a Wish Foundation got
a special award. It was really heartfelt,

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it was really supportive. And it's
interesting because people always ask Stut,

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what do you think? And I'm
like, my opinion really is invalid because

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I'm standing on stage with a microphone. I'm not in the I'm not in

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the crowd. But what really nailed
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was a really good supportive room.
But what really nailed at home for me

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was I had an attendee from Denmark
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at one of the bars gathering people
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want to say how impressed I was
as to how heartfelt the oscars were and

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how it wasn't just a bunch of
people saying patting each other on the back,

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saying you know, okay, vendor, you did a nice job.

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And you did a nice job,
and of course you get it, he

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said basically, in other award shows
he's walked in knowing exactly who was going

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to win, just based on you
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whatever. But he said, this
one really felt genuine and felt very supportive

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and very emotional, and I was
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of what we set out to do. So yeah, so that worked really

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well. The other thing we thought
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it emotional, keeping it honest about
that. But I think that's more.

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I think that's also part of the
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as well, because it is and
actually Ben's speech was incredible. It should

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actually be if you have a chance, because I know it exists on video.

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it exists on video if you have
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was it was. It was incredible. It really wasn't a little bit.

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And I really liked how you know, because I had told, well,

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Scott and I had conversations, I
would already pretty tired by then, and

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you know, yeah, because you
know, Scot's always like, oh,

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the instry is great and I'm like
sitting there, like, you know,

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I'm tired. I have but you
know, I think you know, Ben's

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speaking as to how, no matter
what you do in if you were in

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that room, you are a maker. You are an artist. You have

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a passion to create a thing that
you don't understand. You'd like, you

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don't. You didn't ask for this
passion. You don't understand this passion.

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It just is a thing that you
have to deal with and you just accepted

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and you and you do it.
And He's like, the people understand are

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here, right, And I'm like, I one hundred percent agree with that

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because that's why I haven't slept in
four days. And I don't make a

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haunt. No, you just make
videos about hats. Yeah, and many,

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many, many videos about hats.
So I loved that portion of it.

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I thought that that connected with the
audience very well. I also,

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you know, when working with the
board to produce the awards, we really

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wanted to make sure that we started
to give a voice to the next generation.

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And I think the scholarship folks having
videos in it, which hasn't always

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been the case. You never even
used to know who won the scholarships,

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but seeing their faces is important also, that's why Canon was important because he

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is the next generation of and also
encouraging young businesses, you know, having

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making like dedicating an award to a
first year Haunt dedicated an award to a

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vendor that is under five years.
That though, it's it's we're trying to

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put weave these into the awards so
that you have a good balance of folks

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that have been operating successfully over twenty
years and then and even longer in Ben's

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case, and then people that are
just starting out because they may not make

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I me, you know, like
you can't wait until the end to give

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them encouragement. That's that's like right. So I thought that I think the

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balance was good. Agree, And
I'm glad that we did it. And

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I think that and I think that
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because you know, people were it
wasn't just the same good old boys

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and girls getting the same old awards
and blah blah blah blah blah. You

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know, so like the newer,
the newer products like Tera Roulette and the

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and the new the new vendor Savage
Savage Silicones. Savage Silicons was really cute

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because he had it written out,
yes, and you know he's so nervous,

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and he was arrist and not all
the you know it's haunters, right

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like not most of them did not
write anything. They just kind of like

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talked, kind of winged it,
you know, they kind of winged it,

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but even Ben. So it's funny
given Ben's speech. Ben's speech was

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written out. But of course,
if you know Ben Armstrong, you know

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that he has a background in television
production, so he's he's been he's read

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from teleprompters for many, many years. And he got up there and he

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said, I wrote a speech which
I'm going to half read, which is

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exactly what he did. He's sort
of kind of he just wanted to make

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sure that he got all his his
key points. The one thing I'm sorry,

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I want to circle back to Ben. The one thing that I found

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most interesting about Ben is Jen Taylor
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they've been friends for many years and
they have supported you know, he's been

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a staunch supporter of this of this
show, the trans World show. And

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but she brought up a very interesting
point, said, he is so unassuming

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and so approachable despite the fact that
he has so much knowledge and so much

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experience, and so we kind of
did. We kind of developed the phrase

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He's sort of like the undercurrent of
the Haunted Attractions industry. You don't really

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see him, but he keeps everything
flowing. Yeah, and I think that

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was I think it's a perfect reason
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Savage Silicone, it was it was

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the perfect kind of encouragement for that
person to realize, Okay, now it's

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time to step up. I've been
recognized as time to step up. And

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at the same time, Nick and
Beverly Pappus, who are the cheerleaders for

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the Haunted Attraction industry, to have
them officially recognized. Everybody in the room

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knew who they were, but to
have them officially recognized by the Haunted Attraction

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Association was was just cool. It
was really neat. So that's did a

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good job basically. Yeah, it
was another It was another opportunity to RECOGNI

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eyes to recognize excellence. So I
know we're probably getting close on time.

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I don't know. But one of
the other things that I wanted to bring

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up very very quickly is about three
minutes. Oh good, good, we

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have about three minutes. One of
the other things I wanted to bring up

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then, not so quickly because we
have three minutes, is when you come

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to a show like this, if
you are a creator, if you are

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a maker, come come with very
open eyes and ears, because you can

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be inspired not just on the trade
show floor, but in conversations with the

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people, with the people around you. You know, I talked to I

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had a wonderful conversation with a haunter
who came up to me and said,

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I based my entire haunt on I
based my approach to coming up with a

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haunt on your books. And then
he went on to explain his business model,

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and he went on to explain his
expansion plan, and he went on

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and I was like, this is
great, and he just like sparked me

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because I kept saying, oh,
and you could do this, and what

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if you did that? And we
were we became It became this little mini

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brainstorming session, which was really really
cool. So it's it's that kind of

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be prepared to be inspired. Yeah, and don't get and don't be don't

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lock yourself off from it, don't
be like no, no, I can't

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talk to you, and I can't
talk to you. You mean to leave

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time exactly, Yes, mean,
that's why I'm saying. You know,

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you can't pack the schedule and you
need to you can't have so much work

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to do that you don't leave time
to be inspired exactly exactly, because if

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you're doing that, you're only getting
You're only getting You're you're missing out on

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a really powerful chunk of what this
is all about, which is why I

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think it's so important. And I
realize some people use the social element of

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this to just get hammered, which
you know that happens too, but but

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it's also why it's so important that
we maintained those spaces to have those kind

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of group gatherings and and those people
who have been in the industry for a

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while to talk to the people who
haven't been in the industry for very long

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and continue that inspiration, because I
honestly believe that that is what really draws

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people back. Everybody says it's to
pick up the coolest new mask or the

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coolest new prop but honestly, it
is the socialization that brings us all together.

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You know, I refer to it
as the gathering of all the tribes

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and when what's interesting is now that
Christmas is involved. Because when Christmas first

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started, the Christmas people and the
haunt people were at opposite ends of the

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room. They were at opposite ends
of the opposite ends of the convention center,

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divided by a walkway. I mean
you had to keep them. Back

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in the Chicago days, they were
in almost different convention centers, two different

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sides of the same one. But
now I think we're seeing more and more

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of that coming together because haunters are
building Christmas events. Christmas events are building

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haunted attractions. I have seen I
did when I went into the cover of

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the Christmas Center. I saw a
lot of haunters that were just asking questions

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to get to just figure stuff out. And I think that's important, right,

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having the people in front of you
and you can ask the question to

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get that when you're saying about inspiration. I had a chance to talk chat

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with the Wicked Maker folks actually who
attended the oscares, and they told me

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that they were had an inspiration to
make a video based off of some of

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the stuff they heard in the presentation. That's great, And they even asked

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if they could see portions of the
script to kind of get to you know,

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have some of those details and get
that whole thing. And that's exactly

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I mean, that's exactly like you
don't even know where it's coming from,

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right, and you don't know if
it's going to come from conversation or if

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you're at this at an event like
this where you're hearing about all the haunts

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and what everyone is doing, and
then that gives you inspiration to create a

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thing or make a video. You
know. That's exactly it. And the

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other thing that I think is is
important that we haven't mentioned yet, and

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I want to make sure because it
is a very important part of this convention.

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Uh, and so many of them, and that is the education side.

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There are many seminars. I forgot
all about that too well, because

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again I was here to do a
seminar. I taught a seminar on the

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Christmas side, and I attended a
couple of seminars and talk to people about

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seminars. But the idea of being
able to talk to people who've done the

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work, and maybe people who have
done work comparable to yours. You can

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go to a seminar, I think
for two or three basic reasons. One

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is I know nothing about this,
but I want to One is I know

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something about this and I need validation. And finally is I know a whole

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bunch about this, but I want
to make sure that that I'm not missing

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anything new. Right, It could
be any of those three. And the

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coolest thing about any of the sessions
is every single time you get a chance

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to talk to the presenter afterwards,
usually out in the lobby. And then

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I had several people come up to
me afterwards throughout the rest of the show

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to just kind of come up and
say hello, and you know, here's

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here's what I got from your class, and here's what I'm continuing to get

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from the rest of this show.
Well, because Philip is about to doze

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off right now, I'm so tired. Yeah, he's exhausted, and eventually

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we both have a plane to catch. It just keeps getting delayed, but

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our time is up. So from
the trans World Halloween and Christmas show here

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in Saint Louis, Missouri on behalf
of Philip Bernandez with Gantam Lighting and the

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Hunted Attraction Network and myself Scott Swinson
from Scott Swinson Creative Development, this has

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been Green Tag Theme Park at thirty
and we will see you at the next

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trade show or just next week when
we do another show Sea. Today's episode

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was edited by me Philip Hernandez,
with post production by David Swape and original

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h A N Team includes Daryl Plunky, Emily Luis Rua, Meghan Spells,

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Gavin Burns and Omniadventures. Until next
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