Woods of Terror in Greensboro NC

0:08 Woods of Terror is entering their thirty second year. That's coming up on today's show from the Hontented Trastion Network. I'm Bilip and this is our sixty one day hantedon where we're counting down to Halloween by celebrating haunted houses daily via videos, podcasts, and VIP in person experiences. Since this podcast is only one part of our Hantathon this year, the best way to follow everything is by subscribing to our newsletter or by checking the updates on our website at hanted Attraction Network dot com. Remember that the best way you can support us this season is by sharing our Hantathon with someone you think we'll enjoy it. Woods of Terror in Greensboro, North Carolina is celebrating their thirty second year this season, and I sat down in person with Eddie McLaurin to learn all about it and about his history leading up to this monumentous year. So here's Eddie and I at his office in person at Woods of Terror in North I'm Edie McLaurin, owner operator of the Woods of Terror. We're going into our or we're actually doing it now, our thirty second year. So Woods of Terror is obviously in the Woods. We're located in North Carolina and the deep Woods in the South, and it is a linear show. So you would come into the Midway and this year we're pushing seventeen attractions and you would be going through those linear show. It takes right at fifty five minutes to an hour to go through it. And that's it. Yeah, I can verify it does take that long. I literally timed it so it's exactly that long. And we were not you know, we were not running. I mean, you know, I mean some places we were running the chainsaws. You know, the

1:38 girls were kind of chainsaws are But tell me to me, I think, you know, really the Midway stands out, the actors stand out, you know, the parade, all of the excitement that the team has, and you know, I think you have a diversity in actors too. You know, it's not just kids, it's not just older actors. It's a great and there's a lot of them. And it's all the prades. So you tell me about your your Midway and your opening ceremony and why that's important. All right, Well, I guess I guess pushing about twenty five years ago, I had thought in my mind and my image was my mind would be like somebody's hitting the power on a power box. The show lights come on, and what could I do to make to let everybody know, hey, man, not only do it? Was it tear? The show is open.

2:27 So I thought about it. I've always been a patriotic guy. I've always been in sports. I thought, man, you don't want to bring him in. I want to sing the national anthem, And so we paryed the monster's end. I think tonight it was one hundred and twenty two of them prayed them in, letting them know, like, I don't know how if you know how many actors are here, but we're showing them to you. So they definitely come out with we got some great makeup artists and the costumes, and it just goes on and on. So once they come in here, you know, I say, who are we Wood's a tear, and I say pick a victim, and man, these actors pick somebody, and everybody's scatters and and they know the show is open. So we do the national anthem, and then we do a couple of songs, and the actors parade out and we come back here in the back and it's like a like another sports thing. We get together and we get in the huddle and man, we get them fired up. And we definitely do have a diverse crowd, young, old, I got some older actors that are incredible, and I got some young actors. Uh, these gen zs are coming in, but they're full of energy. I've got some very committed actors and this could be the best show that the best actors we've had and probably the last five years. So it's just our second night open, so I think we're well on the way. Yeah, you know, tell me a little bit more about you said the connections with like sports and with that, because it strikes me that, you know, some shows the actors kind of just you know that they're there to be creepy, or some shows are theatrically, you know, like they're they have lines or they're they're performing them onlog It strikes me that here the midway, everything's high energy. You know that the mini

4:00 actors are fantastic. They have snakes and they're going up. They're high energy. I mean, they're just popping out. I remember the clown areas are like jumping up and down. I mean it's like, you know, we know that's I guess. You know, do you see a connection between that, like, are you trying to make it a physical experience like that? Yeah, we definitely do. I mean we want to get as close to I guess a touch home as we can. Of course we're not a touch home, but I am definitely an actor driven home. I don't have a lot of amatronics. Well I do have more than I used to, but I want it to be about the actors. I don't think amatronics can scare people as good as my actors. And we definitely have some good leaders here six footers one. He gets the hype circle going, and I want it to be high energy. And I know the sets look good, but you know, we got to scare them. So startle scares, high energy scares, and that's what we've trained. That's the culture we're trying to train here.

4:57 And I think that you can see as my my leaders have trained that in so we have it throughout the woods. Yeah, yeah, I agree. And let's give the context of the spaces. It's quite a long linear walkthrough. Tell me a little bit about the zones or what you've added for this year. Okay, Well, after you leave the midway you'll go through the Phobia House. And the Phobia House has changed over the years. It used to be a really dark, mazed, pitch dark. This year we added a lot more decoration in it. I did have a corn field for years, but these hurricanes coming up the coast hair of that corn all to pieces, so I put all my cornfield stuff in the woods. And this year that was brand new called Jack's Revenge, very pumpkin driven with Jack is taking his revenge on the kids that took all the candy. So then we go into Hardwired, which is the best way I know describe it as a nineteen eighties like terminator robot attraction. So then you go into the funhouse and obviously that's where the clowns are. So we had our vampire house was there for sixteen years. We tore that out and now that is Stranger Things, so that's a Vecna's house. And then we go into the Mortuary. So we've had a graveyard for years, but we put in a huge building there, put in the mortuary, church and bombing room, incinerator room, really one of our best sets. And then we go into Harwood Cinemas. After a lot of exit polling survey. Everybody wants to see Jason and Freddie and they all want to see all the acon so I said, okay, I'll

6:29 give it to him. It's crazy. I spend the least amount of time in that attraction and people love it. So after that we have the Pirate's Cove and that leads into the Calypso, a treehouse that I built a couple of years ago. Really great, probably twenty thousand objects in that house. And then you'll go into the Cave or the miners Cave, and then you lead into the Texas House. And then we have Purge and that is my StepShot attraction, and but high energy actors make that set really good. And then we have Century Overload, which is back to dark Maze with some shock pads. We try to shock them a little bit, leads you right into the asylum. And then after the Asylum, we put an attraction called the Scrubber, so we send them to a bus full of foam, and the older people definitely don't want to do it, so we made a pass by, but the kids love it and go through the foam. And that's the fifty five minute show. Yeah, that's that last section is just hilarious, you know, especially when you're just going through a school bus and it's I like, I like always when people play with elevations, so you're like crouching to get into the bus and you get into the bus and they're just completely surrounded by bubbles and soap, Like, it strikes me. It's such a it's such a wide range of themes on here. You know, when you're looking at a theme, what are you looking for? And you know, like like the bubbles, like how did you how did you get to the scrubber? Well, you know, we're always looking. You know, in

8:01 my mind, I want my right my show to be a roller coaster ride. I can't scare them out of their mind for ten attractions. It's too hardcore. So we try to scare them a little bit. We get to the funhouse. Maybe it's funny for others, and maybe they're screaming because they hate clowns. But I also look at that. I want that thirty five year old male to come in here and say, well, you know, I didn't get scared that much, but man, the sets were amazing and I was definitely entertained watching the kids laugh and scream and go through the bubbles, and I have a lot of older males seek me out in the midway and say, ain't you the owner? I said yes, and they said, man, we just want to tell you the craftsmanship was amazing. So I'm looking to go from you know, the Funhouse or to the Pirates where you go to Vecna's house, where you go totally to purge. It's a totally different theme. I'm trying to theme it totally different in each attraction because to entertain somebody for fifty five minutes in today's world is a little bit of a challenge. So if after ten minutes, you've kind of lost their mind.

8:58 So that's why I do have a lot of attractions, and they're short, so about that time they think, they don't even get a chance to say, oh on board, they're right into another attraction. And each attraction obviously has its own sets, it's own costumes, its own sense and everything like that. So I think it makes for a good experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just well, obviously I just went through it. So it's just even as you say it, you know, there's things I forgot about because it's so much, you know, it's a a big all of experience, and also, of course you're in the experience. I think you lead the midway of the monsters show that comes out. Talk to me about I know you've been doing that for a while. Talk to me about that. Well. I'm married a second time and last time to my beautiful wife. But I was married one time, went out to Vegas, got home and I said, I miss you like crazy, as she did.

9:50 I didn't miss you at all. I'm moving out. So I've been trying hard. I was going into my fifteenth year, I think, and this was the year that I started working for myself, and I said, man, my wife left, I'm gonna cut a mohawk, I'm gonna get a snake, and I'm walking around midway and I'm gonna take pictures. It was all a joke. And next season, I go to Myrtle Beach Bike Week, I seen my bone jacket, and the next thing I know, Bondaddy was born. People were calling me bone Daddy. So I don't know how many years now I've been doing that, sixteen seventeen, but it's really turned into something amazing. It. I used to have to help a lot with the maintenance and all that, but I've got the best maintenance manner I've had, Devin Sler, and he has given me the freedom to do what I do, to be bone Daddy and to interact with the people, which is really great. To take that earpiece out and not listen to all the drama going on or everything breaking, so I go out there and interact with the crowd. So it's really got something that I really look forward to seeing the people year after year, or twenty years ago, meeting a kid that was twenty coming back now with his twelve year old son, and that's really amazing.

10:58 That's really makes me happy to see these people coming back. Or they'll pull out their phone and show me a picture from eight years ago where they took a picture. This is actually my second snake. Don was the first one, spawn as the second one, and they actually showed me a picture with Dawn and say, man, I was here ten years ago. Something that started happening over the last couple of years. As man, we've been here seven years a row, eight years in a row, ten years in a row. Really just amazed, and you know, my biggest question always is was it better than last year? And they're like, oh, yes, by four so I'm wondering when we're going to reach the peak. But I don't think we're going to reach the peak for at least five more years. We're still going up. Yeah, I find it fascinating that you are in the show, and for the reasons you just said, because so many you know, I know, I go to haunts all over and so many owners. You know, it's it's like, you know, generally it's like hunters are they build the mouse trap or they want to be the actor, And it seems like most of the owners are in the first camp where they they're they're the builders. I mean, everything falls on them, right, I have the excise with them, so it's like they can't enjoy themselves almost right. So yeah, So and I like this because you know, I think sometimes maybe like we forget why we become hunters, or you know, it can be a lot. Yeah, yeah, I think that. You know, it was funny, it's probably been sixteen years somebody said, hey, we want some pictures. I think it was on a attraction magazine, and I sent some pictures in of all my sets and stuff, and they said, no, we want pictures of you. And at that time I

12:28 had a normal haircut, and I said, okay, I'll put on a suit and tie. I took some pictures with some zombies, but now the bondetti look is what I think they were really looking for. So it all happened by chance. But when Devin came in, I was able to step away from that probably five years now. I don't wear radios, don't wear your pieces, And really I work all year to have twenty two nights of fun and to be the owner. And I know some guys are doing this. It's working all year and then for twenty two nights living through the hell being open's and for me it's my favorite time because I get to see the people, meet to people. You know, we sing songs with the band and it's really that's what's really energized me even more for people to come through and tell me how much they enjoyed it, how far they drove. Actually, tonight I was putting the snake up. One of the guest actors coming got me and said, Heeddy, you got to come back in. These people drove three hours to come see your show. And saw I'm like, okay, I'll go back out, so you know, then won't just take a picture with me is really the fun part. I like that, And then that's really well said. I think I remember Alan Hopp said something similar where you know if he's like, if if you have a well managed show with delegation, then it's no different than any other day because it should run.

13:41 You spend you spend the whole year preparing for those days where you can enjoy it. Yeah, and actually we've spent a lot of time over the last two years making the show. You know it. It ain't never gonna be maintenance free, but I do a ton of stuff in the off season to make it where I I know that I won't have to stop what I'm doing. You know, Vortex motor, we got two motors, we got double everything. But yeah, we've worked on it and it was a process. But Death is a great maintenance man. And us working on the off season on things that are the biggest problems, I've made it smoother and easier for me to be bum daddy. Yeah, yeah, excellent. Well I want to go down that vein a little bit because thirty two years it's a while. Where do you see the haunted developing? You know, I mean you said earlier you kind of We're like, well, we're hoping each year is better than the last. But you know, I mean, I mean audiences these days, you know what is horror, And you know, I like that you're leaning more in personally. I like that you're leaning more into entertainment because I think that there's a ceiling and how much you can free people out. You know, but you've been doing this for so long, and now that you're delegating, where do you see the show evolving? You know, like you definitely want you to lead to I guess I call it pe the Stranger Things. You know, that was a big move for me, something ten years ago I would have never did. But what I find amazing about that show is that people will not let their ten eleven and twelve and thirteen year old watch insidious or conjuring, but they will let the watch Stranger

15:13 Things. And I thought, man, I can reach out to another whole group of people enthusiasts and check this and come in and see stranger things that just be blown away something that you know, maybe I'm a year late on that, but I think there's a writer strike, so I think they're going to back that up a little bit. But you know, they got there saying the last season is going to be two seasons. I think broke into two maybe, But you know, I probably got three or four years for Stranger Things that'll really play out over the next couple of years. But doing that and into the future, hired a new set designer, Ron Visinguarde Amazing. Hopefully he'll be here a couple more years. He's a rising star. I don't know that I can keep them here forever, but we've already got plans for three new things next year, a total tear out on one and a total replacement on one. And I think that this attraction will be bigger and better than a Mortuary or Stranger Things. So right now I've got three or four years laid out ahead of me. And but you know, I think that I'll probably always try to keep attraction tied in the pop culture.

16:21 I call the Stranger Things a pop culture thing, but keep people tied in, and then of course we're gonna throw in stuff like Mortuary in the cave that's totally haunted, house, totally scared. So I think that's where we're headed. So it's so basically you're thinking entertainment is evolving in a way where you know, you're going to keep the idea of heavy actor and heavy you know, high energy and just keep an eye on the ips that are evolving out there. Yeah. You know, I've got one costume this year from Alan Hobbes that was the Clickers from Last of Us, So we got that out there, and I think that, you know, it's crazy. The movies used to be awesome. I mean, me and you, younger man, go to the movies. Man, that was part of it. Now they're not making good movies. They're not making a lot of movies, and you can buy them on Netflix. But now I think for everybody, it doesn't matter who your haunted house is. The harnted house industry is going to continue to grow. It's entertainment that is live that you have to be here, and man, that stuff is going to go through the ceiling. Like you know, I think there's some guys out there trying to do this where you can log into a game and go through a harnted house. Well that kind of defeats the purpose, you know, and I'm all for that.

17:32 But these people getting out of their seats, getting in a car, taking an experience, and you know, COVID is probably driving that a little bit, and that you know, we were on lockdown and our lives were really affected by that, and hey, you better get out and enjoy life. So I think with the entertainment, and of course I will always try to keep three or four original attractions that are something I thought of, whatever came up with. But mixing the entertainment with the stuff and the original stuff and the quality sets and the actors that I'm going to always want to be an actor driven home, I think will keep us rising to the top. Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say, it's like there's so much about AI. Even the writers Strike has that element of it, right, but you can't you know, you like these physical experiences. You can't replace it as a matter. You know, you could in theory. You can generate so much, you know, online media with AI and with all this generative AI stuff, but it's the in person experiences you know, can't be applicated.

18:30 But yeah, so I think the in person experiences are I agree with you. I think they're going to be continue to be. I mean, so I was going to ask, I guess what do you see as the purpose of a hot attraction and It seems like a simple question, but it kind of you know, I don't know. Yeah, I think a lot of people will think, well, to be scared, but I think for me, the number one thing is almost entertain people. Yeah, and that's what you're doing. I mean, you're out there like, so I think of that thirty five year old, how can I entertain him? And when he comes in and he sees the singing and the parade and we man, it's like the Midway. You can get funnel cakes and you can get food and hot dogs and go through and see all these attractions, with all these different attractions. These guys are even like the stranger things we got. It was funny. I put pee Wee Herman in the room and then a week later he died. But we got these eighties things, and you got all these I got these VHS tapes in therea with old Predator and Platoon, and man, I can remember when all the movies came out. So we're doing this nostalgia thing. So the older generation comes in, they're like, wow, I loved all the old stuff. And the kids are like, I love stranger things. So number one thing, by far entertain them laughing giggling.

19:42 You know. Yeah, of course. Second, I hope we scaled a hell lot of them. But number one thing is to entertain them and that'll keep them coming back. Yeah. Is that why you think that you stuck with it this whole time? Is because of the love of entertaining people. Yeah, you know, for me, a lot of people. You know, I grew up in the South and was old Baptist kid believing Jesus, and I didn't get to see a lot of hard movies when I was younger. I had to play catch up. But for me, it's about building a show and the love of building a show and what I can do with my hands. And on a night like tonight, set back, watch your people go through and go wow, man, it just makes me feel so good inside to know that I built this in the city's people laughing and giggling. And for me, it's about the build. It's not really necessarily about Halloween. It's about what I can build and taking one hundred and twenty two misfit kids, whether nowadays, and this is just being straight on as it's a black kid or a homeless kid, that we got a homeless kid, as you're working for us white kids, all these Spanish people, transgender gays, all coming together, and it's like, what's so amazing to me is that if the world could be like my haunted house here, we would all get along. We get along so good. We're family, doesn't matter to color, the race of the creed. We're all family. And when you stick these guys, it's like going to war, you know. I open the show up with a battle cry. I'm like, we're going to war and we're going to blow these people away. So this, this bond of these family people is and that's amazing too because the people that I met

21:15 running it's on at house, this amazing industry, just all the people I've met, all the kids that have acted for me. Had a girl come through tonight. I said, Rachel, my god, I hadn't seen you in five years. Where have you been worked for me for five years? She goes in, I got three kids now. It's just amazing to see these kids come back. But the building part of it and entertaining the people and the bonds I'm building with these these kids. These kids, whether they work here one year, ten years, will never forget the year they worked. It was a tiar it's an amazing experience. Yeah, it really is a sentiment that I hear echoed a lot that listeners this year will hear from a lot of different owners. I'm wondering, you know, we can tell you have the love of the entertainment in the show aspect, why do you think you chose the hunted house house route instead of like, you know, you could put on a rock show or you know, I mean, I mean you could. I could see I see you doing like doing a rock concert or something, doing some other like a summer festival. You know, like why why the spooky Halloween thing? You know? I you know, I tell everybody. Right out of high school, I had a buddy invited me to a hole of house. We went and man had a great time, and he said, man, I didn't make enough money doing this.

22:22 I said, well, I'll do one. Let's make one together, and I'll pay you. Pay you one hundred dollars. He said, he made forty. I said, I'll pay you one hundred. I remember, man, I think it was one hundred and eighty four people at two dollars in nineteen ninety one. I'm like, oh, my lord, but you know, I don't know I feel like some of that stuff was you know, I said, I'm a Jesus guy. I think some of that stuff was guided. Man. It was like for for me to be where I'm at it. Obviously, I worked hard, and you know, I tell people like, you can you only have to work half a day to be successful. It's first twelve or the second twelve. You know it. It ain't eight hours a day. But a lot of things have fallen into place that have left me here. And yeah, you know, some days I look like, go man, I could have been a rock star singer. But I think, honestly, this is where I was supposed to be. In two thousand, I was introduced to trans World. Didn't know anything about it.

23:17 I remember talking to Ben Armstrong like it was yesterday. I said, what do you do for a living? Ben? And he goes, well, I do Halloween. And I'm like, I said, no, I'm heat in an air, man. I do heating an air forty hours week. What do you do? And he goes, no, I do Halloween. I was like, okay, I'm going to do that. And lord, I think that was two thousand and one. So I made up my mind. So in two thousand and nine. I think it was. I went full time and been full time ever since. Yep. You know, we have a lot of younger people that listen to the show, and they're like going through college and graduating, and they're always asking like, how do I do this? So I'm curious what would you tell them? What would you tell maybe someone who's in high school or college that wants to do Halloween, I would pick another career. Yeah, I'm serious, That's what I tell them. I would pick another career. Well, because I always I'm like, look, it is harder than restaurants. You know, every time you open your losing money. The infrastructure, Like, look you have I can't even calculate how much you put into your show, and you keep adding you after year. So it's like if you were to make a new one, essentially the competition would be places like you guys with thirty two years of sets that are built in and then every time you open, Yes, it's you know, I'm gonna tell you that is a that is a that's a stumper question right there. You're gonna have to lay out on a geographical map whether go to Virginia and pick out No hand house was in you three hours.

24:47 That's the way you gotta do it. But man, I'm gonna be honest. I think that I would have to say probably, I don't know the numbers. One out of five hundred thousand some people can do this, or one out of maybe five out of a million. Because this is it's tough. I had some days I wanted to quit and I got my shirt on. The hater's gonna hate because boy, let me tell you, if you just have a little bit of success, somebody wants to beat you down and tell you you can't do this, you can't do that. And it's been tough, man. I mean, I mean my dad was up there fifteen years ago and he said, what are you doing today, Addy?

25:33 And I said, well, I'm working on the woodsitear and he said, I don't know why you're doing that. It won't ever be nothing, you know. And that's the way a lot of people think. So you gotta be tough, and I tell you I don't know. I honestly, I would say true was another career. I would say, go work at a go work at a haunted house and worked there every two or three years and see if you think you can do it. But man, you gotta be tough. You got to get up stuff. Man, I'm gonna tell you I drive a two thousand and four Excursion and last year I went in order to nineteen. You know, I ordered a twenty twenty three Denali brand new. It was loaded and it came in and I went and talked to my banker. I said, I'm gonna pick up my truck and said, I'll make sure my loan's gonna go through for all business. And she said, I'll tell you, EDDI, if you buy that truck, you won't get you loan. So I had to give up the truck. And I've done that all my life. And you know, even my stepson said to my wife, she goes, you know, Eddie bought a Bobcat two years ago, and he bought a Lyft three years ago. And he never ad buys anything for her self. And it's tough. You gotta you gotta be willing to give up. And right now I live in my old grandparents's house.

26:47 I'm remodeling the house I grew up as a kid. But I've been remodeling that house for six, six or seven years because I've had to stop to put all my money in time and effort into Wozitar, and it has probably the last three to four years that has started paying off. But I'm gonna tell you, for the first twenty years, I didn't take a dime of profit. I put it all back into my home. I can tell you this. In the last thirty years, I've only owned two vehicles, and one of them to two thousand and four. And that's what you got to give up. You got to be pared to give up. There's some other people doing it different ways. They take their profit and they buy their nice houses, and they buy their cars, and their hont's not as good.

27:29 I've chose to do the different. I'm gonna make my home the best I can. If I have to change a little bit, I'll drive an older car. I am hoping to buy me a new car this year, but so I got two new Bobcats and I got a lift, so I'm hoping I can buy me a truck. But it's a lot to give up, man, It's a personal sacrifice. And I mean, and I'm gonna tell you, I always make jokes. My first wife left because I had a mistress and it was called wizard there and suck Joe. Yeah, I mean, but I worked forty hours a week on my job, and I worked forty hours a week on Wi the Tear for twelve years, and my wife just didn't like it. I guess it was crazy she met me I had the HONT, but I guess she saw it that I would always love the home and spend the money on the HONT. Maybe she wouldn't have the biggest house if she wanted to, but a big house doesn't make me happy.

28:22 But I live on my family farm. That was the goal to It had been sold off in pieces, and I've only got ten acres left about back, so I'll have sixty when I get done. But very slowly, I've methodically bought each piece of property back in each house back, and it's been an amazing road. I wouldn't trade it for anything, but it is a very tough road to hoe. And so if you're thinking about this career, like I said, you better go practice somewhere a couple of years and make a decision. I honestly think that you could go somewhere and be a actor coordinator, team leader and make more money and be happier, because this will consume your life and you know, I'm all in or nothing, and I tell people here, we're going to do it right away and going to do it. And I do a lot of attention to detail a little hundreds of things that other homeowners. So I can say to this, there was three haunted houses that used to be around me. They all spun off when I opened, and they didn't pay attention to the little things in the details, and they all closed in the six or seven years and they're all gone.

29:29 But you have to pay to the little attention of details. But I sincerely think you could go somewhere and I know you're going to hush, but man, you could get involved with hush or maybe being done in another world or field of screams and Pennsylvania. Man, get involved with those guys. You could be a team leader, a manager, and you'd be happier, make more money. Yeah, that's I think. That's exactly what I tell people usually. You know, It's like I used to teach a theater, you know, and the kids would always say like, I want to be on Broadway, and I was like, look, you will make it if you Anyone can do anything, if they sacrifice everything else for that one thing.

30:11 That's what I did. Yeah, And I mean it's you know, it's kind of like you have to want, you have to need it, like you need air, or it's probably not going to work because it not, is it not? This is not yeah, yeah, own in woods. The terror is there's probably two things in life. I love my wife, being with her and man owning the woodsd terror and that's what I live for. So I get up. I do it every day, probably work. I probably work on average twelve hours a day, and if you factored that out, I'll probably get paid you know, ten bucks eleven bucks an hour. But it's the love of it, and of course living on my family farm, and that's that's a big part of it. But you got to be willing to give up, like you said, everything, and you know, for me, I had to give up. What worked out. I give up my first wife never intended that. I really hated that that happened.

31:02 But things are better now, and you know, thirty two years later, we're getting ready to have our biggest season. The numbers are going already through the roof for what we normally do, and so I think we're having an amazing year. And you know, I'm just letting everybody know. So I own fifty acres now, I'm leasing ten. Hoped to buy that in a couple of years, but I have seventeen more years on that lease. So I'm hoping we're going past that seventeen And people ask me, what, where's my exit strategy? I ain't made one. I'm just gonna keep I'm gonna keep rocking until I can't as long as I don't go bald and rock my mo hope, I think I'm all right, amazing. Well, I think that's a perfect place to end, all right, man, I mean, thanks for coming out. Today's episode was produced and edited by me Philippernandez, with post production by David Swape and original music composed by Chris Thomas.

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