Day 1: Fright Fest at Six Flags Magic Mountain

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The Conjuring and saw X are coming
to six Flags Magic Mountain this Halloween season.

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That's coming up on today's show from
the Haunted Attraction Network. I'm Philip

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and this is Day one of our
sixty one day Hauntathon, where we're counting

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Today, we'll hear from the creative
team at six Flags Magic Mountain about

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the design process for this year's FrightFest
and their expansion into ip with mazes based

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on the Conjurine and saw X.
This panel was recorded live during Midsummer Scream

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on Sunday, July thirtieth in Long
Beach, Enjoying. Welcome to the stage,

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Manager of Entertainment and Events for six
Flags Magic Mountain. Michael Ostroum Entertainment

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and Events, Senior Creative Supervisor for
six Flags Magic Mountain, Mark Wing and

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prosthetic designer and artist mentor at the
Scream team for Six Flags Magic Mountain,

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Scott Ramp, what's up, Midsummer
Scream. How y'all doing today? All

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right, well, it sounds like
there's a lot of you. I can't

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really tell. These lives are pretty
bright, but that's great. Y'all are

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here to celebrate the thirtieth anniversary of
FrightFest with us. So we're not here

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just to announce an announcement today.
We're gonna by the end of this event,

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we're gonna tell you everything that is
happening with Fast in twenty twenty three,

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so you have all the details by
the end of our presentation. So

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again, my name is Michael ostraum
On the entertainment events manager. I'm Mark

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Wing thirteen years, that's creative director. Are you rich? And I'm Scott

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Ramp and I've been there all thirty
years doing the makeup. All right,

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let's get this started. So we
wanted to go back and talk a little

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bit about the origins and the history
of Fright Fast and started way back in

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nineteen thirty three, nineteen ninety three. I shouldn't say way back, sorry,

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Scott nineteen ninety three. But Scott, once you tell us a little

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bit about those first years when you
when you were around. We'll come back

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a little bit later to show I'll
talk about how the makeup started. But

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essentially I've been doing this since nineteen
ninety three when it first started, and

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it was a very small event and
it has grown exponentially as it's gone along,

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and still have art techniques, so
of our talent, so of our

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makeup artists. Look at baby Scott, there's some baby pictures of me in

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there. Yah. Yeah, I
was twelve, Scott. You want to

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tell us a little bit about the
first iterations here of our This is actually

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our very first first year and this
was our very first clown, and it

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was an actor by the name of
Dave Baker, and he was Bluebell.

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And then there's the one on the
bottom left with his eyes. He was

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a little iteration a couple of years
later. But that was our very first,

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very first Gotham City, back before
it was DC Universe, and Dave

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was our very first clown. And
from that point on we figured out that

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clowns work. Clowns are scary,
so we that's become sort of a thing

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for six Flags and a thing for
me. So hey, yeah, a

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lot of people don't know that.
Obviously, Freyfest also started as a little

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haunted house. If you're familiar with
the parting lot, our overflow lot used

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to be an old house of sort
kind of reminiscence of what we did now

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with Willoughby's. And so it started
out there and grew the next year even

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bigger. And that's when an officially
years started in nineteen ninety three. So

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yeah, started from one house to
many many now many manymore. You can

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see here on this slide a lot
of the progression and what we've done with

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Scott and the Scream team and character
development and Mark, why don't you talk

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to us a little bit about your
process with creative, with our costume design,

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character development and well, yeah,
it all starts obviously with an idea.

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We also look at what's big and
happening that year. For some of

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the characters that you see in the
concept wise all of them have come to

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fruition. We have our ring Master, and it's not a boy anymore.

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She is a lady, yes,
and she's in the crowd house right now,

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actually performed by an amazing cast member
by me Eva. Obviously, our

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Leviathan which we introduced still last year
with our in Devil's Triangle area and located

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in the main gate area and then
dead Zone obviously was a popular area when

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we announced that one. And that's
our cyberpunk themed area with light up elements

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and all different types of fun things. And a lot of those light up

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elements and innovation also came from one
of our makeup artists as well over the

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years. And I think she's in
here, miss Antonita Anderson. So yeah,

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I think we got a few makeup
artists and part of our tech crew

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here. So thank you to all
you guys out there for pulling this all

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the other. Yeah. So yeah, like everything else that starts with an

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idea, we go do a concept. Sometimes it's many ideas. One of

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the things that we take pride in
with us Magic Mountain is that we bring

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our creative team is actually made up
of our cat our cast members, our

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texts are what's called makeup artists,
and our costume folks as well, So

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we work as an amazing team that
is our creative team, and I'm proud

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to say that. And a lot
of the ideas also come from them,

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and we create some unique entertaining creatures
and attractions. So yeah, there's some

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concept art here that you guys all
work together on in the in the past

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and something. Yeah, and we
also get to work with some amazing companies,

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So a shout out to all of
the companies, including Little Spider Creations,

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might go to let's call it,
Oh my gosh. There's just been

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so many over the years that we're
excited to work with and thank you guys

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for being a part of it in
our history. So thank you guys.

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We'll have some more to talk about
with that a little bit as well,

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so I'm excited about that. So
Scott's let's move back over to the makeup

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side, and I want to talk
about some of the progression that you've led

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here at the park and uh and
some of the your design technique and what

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inspires you and that kind of thing. The makeup. The makeup is the

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one thing that makes Six Flags different
from a lot of the other events because

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we I make prosthetics. That's what
I do for a living. I make

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prosthetics. So all of our characters, a very large percentage of our characters,

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especially all of our walk around characters, are in prosthetics, they're not

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in masks, they're not in ordinary
makeups, and that little thing right there

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makes a world of difference. And
I've also prided myself in the fact that

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as we've gotten further along, all
of the makeup artists that I've we've been

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able to bring in, we've become
such a good team that people come up

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with different ideas, we share ideas. We you know, I've taught this

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for thirty thirty something years. I'm
also like, I'm really proud to say

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that some of my makeup artists over
the years that have come and gone with

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us. One of the girls that
first started with me as a student of

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mine, she wasn't even a makeup
artist, and I trained her. She

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went on and won an Oscar for
Best Makeup. And we've had several people

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that have won Emmy's one of them
even on the bottom right there, Mo,

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We've had several people that are Emmy
winners. So if you were work

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with us up at Six Flights,
we're sort of Oscar and Emmy winning training

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ground. Yeah, not bad,
not bad, And it's a lot of

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fun and it's it's really the it's
a combination. Like Mark said, it's

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a combination of the designers and the
the the operations people and the talent,

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and sometimes the talent come up with
an idea and an artist works with it

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and before you know it, we're
like, well, one of our people

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in here tonight, Haiti, she's
she's in a different outfit tonight. But

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one of our still ladies came up
with their own wonderful character. And this

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year there's gonna she's gonna have a
twin, so that's gonna be even better.

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So we have all that's just we
have a we have a great bunch

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of people. We started out very
uh you know, way back when thirty

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years ago, with with still with
using prosthetics, but using hands and fingers

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and rubber mask grease and sponges and
messy missy messy stuff in a little trailers

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outside and all that kind of stuff. And it's as it's gone on,

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we've gotten better and we've gotten air
bush stations and our makeup area was designed

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for us. Actually with all our
of our electric and and airbush compressors and

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everything else, we've we've done some
that we've come a long way from this.

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Most of these are from like ninety
three and ninety four, So you

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came a long way from using the
ketchup bottle there on the bottom right corp

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we used to put it. We
used to put blood in ketchup bottles because

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it was easy to fake blood.
Obviously fake blood. And we we even

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back then had yellow bottles for the
mustard that we made a little kind of

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a bus thing. So, yeah, it was a bad day in the

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break room when you guys confuse those
things. Yeah, yeah, my hamburger

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tastes weird. So now we're moving
forward a little bit and you can start

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to see some of our more recent
characters. And what Scott started to allude

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there too, is we really pride
ourselves on allowing our our and collaborating with

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our talent to create their own personas
and really embody these characters that they want

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to. And I know there's a
few of you out there right now.

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I think, yeah, I say, I saw a company all coming in.

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But working hand in hand did these
people to develop these iconic characters has

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been a real recipe for success for
us. So we're we're happy to give

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the opportunity to for up and coming
people who want to get into acting or

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who just want to get into the
horror industry to you know, really cut

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their teeth in it and learn and
learn something new and work their improvisa improvisational

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skills and all that kind of stuff. It's very true. Like I've been

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doing this for now thirteen years,
and I've seen little kids when I want

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to come work for you many years
ago, and they're now working for us

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as adults. We have families.
We had a great family called the Lack

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of Booze who were amazing a walk
around team together. So it's a big

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family at the park. And I've
been doing it so long that I've seen

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people come through that now I'm meeting
their children and their children are working and

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it gets it gets pretty bad when
there. It's like you did my grandpa

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for me, and me and Mark
were some of those. I know.

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That's the other things like I think
I think Mike said that when he first

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came to Fright first he was like
a little kid, you wanted to be

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a slider, And I'm like,
I feel old, Yeah, no more

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sliding for me in my future.
Unfortunately he can't handle it anymore. But

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now we have a wonderful time with
the working with the talent and really putting

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it together. I mean, it's
a it's a it's a process. Any

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of you that's ever seen how we
do it, it is crazy back there.

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If anybody ends up with our VIP
tours or something like that, we'll

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take you backstage and show you how
all that stuff is done. But it's

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it's pretty insane. I think we
have a whole bunch of YouTube videos of

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probably too. I think no,
there's at least three of them out there.

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Definitely some really good ones from some
of our original cast members and stuff

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like that. And then our innovations
over the years, which I'm very proud

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of that we've innovated, like as
an example, our Nightmares area, which

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we just celebrate our tenth anniversary last
year with Nightmares, and a lot of

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people don't know this, but obviously
Nightmares is the very first chromodepth three D

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scare zone, not amaze, but
a scare zone. So it's it took

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some challenging when we started developing it
and testing it, and we were in

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teams a lot of black lights,
a lot of black lights. It was

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a reality check, to be honest
with you. But over the years it

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started from it's like lime greenie color
to now really detailed amazing stuff that our

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makeup artists produce. And we have
a whole black light room dedicated in our

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macrop room just for these locations because
it's such a popular effect. A couple

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more iconic characters that you guys have
developed. I think people notice thees once

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and all of those, all of
those farmers in there, came up with

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their own creative stuff, worked with
worked with us. Talk to Mark had

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an idea, passed it by him, passed it by me. We we

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came up with all these things together. So all these people this is this

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is I like to say, what
makes us so special? Yeah, this

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is there, and character say,
okay, we throw this on. You

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know, we actually do a lot
of creative development. Example Lorraine. Lorraine,

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she's an icon and you guys will
see her out in the outside.

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I'm at our booth later today.
But it started as a little haggard orange

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dress bob cut, which to the
fabulous thing she is now so and if

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you if you see her at the
booth today, she looks more like a

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typical which but when she's in nightmares, actually she's glow in the dark exactly

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and Giovanni, an amazing new artist
that just started a couple of years ago

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with us. He developed he's doing
her makeup for this weekend. And the

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detail, I'm telling you, the
detail blows. It's our equality. I'm

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super, super, super proud of
the artists that I have working with us.

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Yeah, shout out to all of
them in the back right now,

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you guys. All right, So
now we're gonna start getting into a little

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bit more of our present day.
So I'm happy to announce that this year

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we have the most nights of Fright
Fest ever, thirty nights of Fright starting

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September eight leading all the way to
October thirty feet So we'll be open some

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Thursdays starting the end of September this
year, and and we'll love to see

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you guys out there, more times
for you to come visit us. All

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right, So we're gonna jump back
to again the present. So we've got

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some returning haunted houses this year,
Vault six six six, Willoughby's resurrected Sewer

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of Souls, Aftermath two and Truther
Dare and do you mind we can talk

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now? Yeah, yeah, so
a a lot of you, we've heard

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your thoughts. We paid attention,
and this year Truth or Dare is becoming

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a whole new concept and it's thanks
to our amazing technical team, our supervisory

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team that are also here. Special
shout out to Trevor. I know you're

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in here, but it is getting
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to share it with you. We're
not going to go into detail because you

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want to surprise you, obviously,
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and some really cool stuff happening inside. We're excited about it. Also returning

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this year are six seven excuse me, our world famous scare zones here.

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We've got Devil's Triangle, Territory,
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under Siege, Nightmares, of course
an Exile Hill so we can all visit

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Innocence back up on Exile Hill and
she could freak you all out like she

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does me. She's not sneaking up
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she might be playing with Oliver and
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some characters and stuff that we're gonna
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which we'll get into shortly. All
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part you guys are the most excited
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correct, and assuming that we got
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let you know what's new for twenty
twenty three. Yeah, brand new icon

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character, Nightmare. So it's just
a rough sculpt. It's just the rough

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sculpt. That's a that's a rough
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let me tell you. Obviously.
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Nightmare. He's our new big batty. He is the father of all monsters,

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and uh, you guys want to
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come on out. This is his
first time I alive. Can we

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get house lights real quick, because
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detail on this guy, if you
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lights please bringing them up? There
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thirtieth anniversary. And with that we'll
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uh yeah, he will be a
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Is it? Okay if I say
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of the night every night. So
we are redesigning that and we are adding

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some amazing things. And when we
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you'll see the reason why we're doing
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this guy as the father of all
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amazing work by Scott on the prosthetic
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out to our amazing costume team,
Kim and her team. Amazing, thank

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you, thank you. All Right, we're moving forward. I'm happy to

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announce back by popular demand from those
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we have condemned House Party home.
Margot. I'm sorry, Im sorry,

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hold on, okay, I heard
about a party. I'm sorry.

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Signify mumu party like like my kind
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meet you there. You get started, all right, I know you already

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have. But ladies and gentlemen,
Margot rita our screen break screen queen.

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So in addition to not only Condemned
House Party returning this year, we're super

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excited to also announce the return of
screen Break in twenty twenty four, and

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that's thanks to all of you.
Thank you for coming out. We really

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do appreciate it, guys, Thank
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we appreciate the feedback we got from
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the most special things I've ever been
a part of professionally. Just seeing the

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way you guys enjoyed that event,
embraced it, came out and supported all

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the new characters and all the new
concepts. It was fantastic and honestly the

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most fun I've ever had. So
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and do that again next year.
Ye all right, Moving forward forward.

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We spoke a little bit about this
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that one, but truth or Darry's
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and some new scenic pieces and things. They're just an enhancement to that maze

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and mark this is yours, an
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so excited and we're so happy.
We're working with a great company right now,

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and we're redeveloping. It's going to
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we've ever done with the most in
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lighting designers Zach Moore of Mercat Love
Zach and is something a little special to

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Scott and I. As you will
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concept, to be honest with you, but we're going to pay homage to

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our clowns and our history of Gotham
and City under Siege. And we're working

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with and let's call another great team
of artists to create some very cool stylized

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homage murals to the art, to
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have developed right fast over the years. And so Heckel's and Twitch Love.

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You're gonna be on a bus because
it's yeah, it's the only place for

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you guys to be on. Come
on now, and it's gonna look amazing

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in there. We're taking a lot
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have and turning them into clown mobiles
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all that fun stuff. A lot
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new soundtrack for the area, and
it's gonna be bigger and better than ever,

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And can I announce the other part
of this. I'm looking at my

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boss for permission on something, and
we're we said, we're announcing everything,

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right, Yeah, we're announcing it
all man, and go for it,

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ladies and gentlemen. Sliders of the
Night are returning this year. City under

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Siegs has always been one of the
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at six plays and if you if
you know our area and you don't like

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clowns, come that's that's the place
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it's going to be wonderful. Yes, yeah, we're super excited to

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bring these things forward. So we
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expansion of Kids Boo Fest this year, a new festival that we announced last

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year. We've got some new items
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have a new theme and overlay there. And Mark, do you want to

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talk about our friend there's say hello
to our very first fright, fast,

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fluffy character. Will it be the
bat? He's gonna be very fluffy and

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very very very huggable. Say all
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forward, want to kind of take
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to you guys and see you know, if you guys have any questions for

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our creative team here, anything about
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have some mics. So one thing
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have always been super responsive to guests
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often the case in a lot of
places. So a huge applause for you

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guys for actually listening to what guests
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huge thing. So my question is
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you know the constructive criticism when I
hope it would be constructive criticism when they

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do come in, how do you
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what you've done in order to meet
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seriously, and I can't tell you
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are never unheard. As prime example, truth or Dare was one of them

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this past year. And yeah,
we immediately immediately what was a week after

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Holiday in the Park, we started
developing and talking about Okay, we need

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to make changes on this We do
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Like Nightmares as it's evolved over the
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guest comments about well, why can
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so we've always transitioned our characters.
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but there's been princesses, there's been
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Nightmares, but we have a core
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a very long time now that the
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we never never just rest on anything. We are always inspired by our fellow

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community, our other parks, and
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very seriously and we listen to you
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we're Mike and I especially don't ever
be afraid to come up to us

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and talk to us and ask us
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and listening to you guys, and
that's something we really do take to heart

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because we really do care of our
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Every year. There's really nothing I
just reiterate, nothing I love more

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than talking with you guys about our
event and seeing your passion for what we

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do is the most fun part of
our job. And and from constructive criticisms

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to also compliments that that lead our
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If we hadn't got the response necessarily
from you guys about screen break and about

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condemned House Party, we may not
have been doing this year. But it

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was such a hit. And at
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of groups started coming out of House
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be out standing at the exit and
explaining how how much they loved it.

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I turned to Mark, I said, oh, god, Mark, we

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created a problem. I was like, we can't take this away. There's

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no way, no. Ben especially
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comments. We read all of your
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And I was like, oh,
this is a reality check. We

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need to bring us back. We
don't ever say sorry. We love it.

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We love it. We are yeah, we are YouTube and podcast junkies

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on the creative team here, so
we love hearing what you all have to

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say. And we're all we're all
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like with House Party, two guys, this is our thirtieth anniversary. This

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whole event is going to be a
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So don't don't assume it's. Yeah, we're gonna be scary. We're

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gonna do our thing, but it's
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because we want you to have fun. So that's the whole point of the

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celebrating a birthday party. Oh yeah, yeah, Like Scott's saying very secretively,

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we have a lot of new talent
this year, and there's a lot

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of new innovation. There's a lot
of new even with our technical team and

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our wardrobe team as well. There's
a lot of new minds bringing coming into

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this now and we're super excited.
We always love fresh blood, so blood.

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Any other question we got right over
here. How you doing, I'm

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doing good. Sorry, it's a
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question is is Final Scare coming back? Or are you bringing back Thriller?

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with you guys right now, that's
our walk arounds. You know that's a

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biased crowd. You know what,
y'all are gonna have to come and see

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it, and we gotta we gotta
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bit on and uh, yeah,
you need to come to an audition as

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well, and yeah, get hired. We have one on August fifth,

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you guys at the park, so
if you're looking, we are casting still.

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If you want to look cool like
some of these people, come,

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there's one of ours. Few spots
left for those good ones. I'm leaving

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it right now. We can say
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under Sieges, there is a stage
returning to that area like we had during

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screen breaks, so we'll have some
opportunity to do some new entertainment for freight

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fests on that area as well.
Hi. All right, so I got

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a quick question Scott. You are, i would say, like the pre

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eminent like makeup artist theme parks down
in southern California. Do you do an

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amazing job after all of these years? How do you keep it fresh?

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How do you keep your passion going
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doing this a long time. Obviously,

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I love Halloween. I can't show
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I do have some, and I
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think I'm gonna burn out because I'm
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in the pictures anymore. But I
get back up here and I see my

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artists, and I see Mark and
Mike and what they come to do.

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And essentially the thing that gets me
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park. I won't lie. I'm
exhausted by November. I'm exhausted. The

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joke is I get gray or every
November. But I don't. I'm never

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gonna quit this kind of thing.
I love this and what makes it is

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coming out and watching the reactions with
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good scare. I can have a
crappy day, I can be super tired.

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I walk out and see one person
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one I call the I don't know
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it ball bearing feet because it looks
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get a good scare and their feet
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a couple of those and go,
Okay, I could do this again.

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Yeah, but I've been. But
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ever and ever, and I love
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people and other you know, even
with other parks and and talking about haunts

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and seeing what's what, and if
people come up to me with an idea

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that you know, is something I
hadn't thought of, I'm like, okay,

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so please feel freedom bombard me with
that. Thank you. Yes,

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I forgot to mention that the Raffle
winner also gets to see your your folloween

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tattoos. Yeah, yeah, most
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over there. How you doing,
I'm doing all right, high there.

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I really enjoy I think part of
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is the whole Voodoo Nights show aspect
of it, and specifically the atmospheric elements

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of the park I think are just
so like strongly developed. What goes into

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consideration when it comes to like you
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or a new scare zone. I'm
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building Dead Zone for when the whole
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is atmospherically kind of like what you
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I'll let Mark chime in here,
but I think, yeah, yeah,

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I'm just gonna any hard ones like
that. If you have a hard

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question over there, it's going straight
to market Scott. But I'll to that

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00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.000
a little bit. I think that, you know, it's constantly evolving.

406
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.359
We're always trying to do something new, but we're we're not afraid to try

407
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.079
things in general. So so we
you know, we push, we push

408
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.440
boundaries, we go to the edge, We do whatever kind of things that

409
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.519
maybe other parks wouldn't do. Dead
Zone was kind of a kind of a

410
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.920
stretch. It's a good example because
we we went out and we went with

411
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:23.400
the cyberpunk theme which we which we
hadn't seen before. We started adding to

412
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:29.200
Scott's I'm sure pleasure adding lighting and
things to the makeup that we were doing

413
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.000
and special you know, little effects
on the talent themselves. But really we're

414
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.359
just trying to do something new each
year and try to try to do so

415
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:38.799
with us in our tech team are
makeup parties. Like we said, we're

416
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:44.559
just such a collaborative department that comes
up with all these things, and and

417
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.599
it's always just trying to not rest
on something we've done before and do something

418
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.720
you know that that that's going to
excite you guys. Honestly, No,

419
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.160
it's it's really with our history as
well, not just as fright as but

420
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.200
a theme park. Over the years
of not a lot of you know,

421
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.759
we've started. We have first of
its kind or the tallest and largest and

422
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:07.640
fastest. It's part of that innovation. Innovation is a key factor with what

423
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:12.680
we do and dead Zone. At
the time, there was the video game

424
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.359
that was really Dead Zone was actually
slated to come out in twenty twenty.

425
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:20.839
Obviously we had a situation in twenty
twenty, so twenty twenty one we redeveloped

426
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:24.119
and brought it back and made it
even bigger and better. And obviously it's

427
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:30.720
also just not the over like the
big expenditures, the animatronics and all that

428
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:34.039
fun stuff. It's stuff that we
do with the makeups, the costumes.

429
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.319
Shout out to Michelle Lynn, amazing
costumer and she did she did all the

430
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.720
designing for Dead Zone, for the
costumes and a lot of the stuff you

431
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:46.440
see for pr Fest. But the
big thing is it's within the area.

432
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:51.119
It's what we do with Foggers.
We all we're always our texts are always

433
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.359
playing with how we can change things
and make it even better and to suit

434
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.759
what our theme is for the year. So innovation has always been a key

435
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:00.680
factor with not just frie Fest,
but with Six Flags, Magic Mountain,

436
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:05.920
as our as our history. That
also goes with the question that the guy

437
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.599
other guy answered about might and how
do I keep busy is because when you

438
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:13.240
know, having done this now for
thirty years, sick this didn't. Fright

439
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:16.319
Fest didn't start out as big as
it is. It's it's grown sometimes a

440
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:21.640
little exponentially, but it's grown so
much. And most of the reason it's

441
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.839
grown is because of the things that
the public has said. They wanted to

442
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:29.200
stay open longer, they wanted more
events. We went from there was a

443
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:30.880
period a long time ago where people, oh, well, I don't want

444
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.079
to be scared. So it's like, well, but you don't get scared,

445
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.720
and this finally everybody want to know
you're gonna get scared, and you

446
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:43.319
know that. And so as we've
gotten these people in and gotten more creative

447
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.680
and heard more things from the audiences, it's just gotten better and better and

448
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:50.920
better. And then and that thing. We draw more makeup artists, we

449
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:53.440
draw more actors, we draw more
talent, and then that draws more audience

450
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.400
and you guys are you know,
and it just it continues to grow,

451
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:02.000
but it really is collaborative with the
people. It's not just you know,

452
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:07.039
us sitting up here. Yeah,
all right, so well move forward to

453
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.519
our final question real quick and then
we'll move We'll get this chill on the

454
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:16.079
road here, so I'll make it
quick. So, as a guest who

455
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:20.480
has been coming for years, obviously
you know with the little ones and now

456
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:27.039
they're growing and they're bigger and everything. Everybody loves the interaction of the characters,

457
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:31.440
the roamers, the scare zone areas. The only thing is is some

458
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:38.400
people get a little rude and annoying. So my question is security wise because

459
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:43.519
we don't want to lose the interactions
of all the characters that are out there

460
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:51.159
because people love it for that.
So is there any any updates or changes

461
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:57.559
that you guys are thinking of security
wise for these characters because some people do

462
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:04.800
get a little too much. Yeah, oh, it looked. So I'll

463
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.519
give you a little bit a bit
of background about myself. I've worked for

464
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.719
for six Flags for about twenty years
now in a variety of different roles before

465
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.440
joining the entertainment team. But my
first full time position at Magic Mountain was

466
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:20.400
actually in the security department. So
coming from the security background and now working

467
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:25.079
with the team and all the talent
here and hearing their feedback again and working

468
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:30.480
off a feedback and doing that,
we've expanded our escort system for our for

469
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:36.760
our team members. We've also expanded
security coverage and you know, other forms

470
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.400
of law enforcement coverage and things like
that. So safety is always going to

471
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:44.039
be in the theme park world the
number one priority. Having you know,

472
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:46.880
like I said, the security background, but also on the on the flip

473
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:51.639
side, having worked as a talent
a few times here and some of our

474
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.400
events and seeing it from that side
as well, it really helps us mold

475
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:59.880
how we're protecting people. But it's
one the first thing that we think of

476
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.360
about with our team. Yeah,
and what's called it A definitely, it's

477
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:07.800
it's part of obviously our training.
It's a big thing. Obviously common sense

478
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.519
is to be as a performer is
to be at least arms distance away from

479
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:15.320
somebody. But what's called it,
you gotta know your distance if you're one

480
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:16.960
of our walk arounds. And that's
why we do have a lot of great

481
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:21.880
retention with our walk arounds because they
know what they're doing, they know they're

482
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.079
distancing. Unfortunately. Yes, we
are going to have rude guests here and

483
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:30.000
there. Everybody has them, and
it's really up to the talent to just

484
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:34.719
avoid that, get away from that, and obviously reported as quickly and efficiently

485
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:39.440
as possible so that guests unfortunately may
not be able to stay for the remainder

486
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:44.559
of the event. So yeah,
we are constantly evolving and changing that and

487
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.320
it really does have to do with
our also amazing walk around talent because they

488
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.880
know what they're doing, and then
you's got to keep your distance. That's

489
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.519
the biggest thing. And having done
this for so many years, I gotta

490
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:59.599
just say you guys, obviously this
room is full of people that love Halloween.

491
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:04.079
We all love Halloween. We don't
we don't we understand that that Halloween

492
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.400
brings some people that act like,
you know, not not the grab,

493
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.719
not in say anything bad up here, but but there's some people that are

494
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.920
not terribly nice about it. The
one thing that I have seen over all

495
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:21.440
my years, not just the thirty
doing fright Fest, but the other decades

496
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:28.800
before that, is is that the
crowds are not being a lot of people

497
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.519
are not willing to let people do
that. So sometimes I've actually been out

498
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:37.920
in the park seen somebody, a
jerky person do something and other crowds going,

499
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:39.159
hey, dude, knock it off. You know they're you know,

500
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:43.800
they're working or and I think that's
cool because you guys end up being part

501
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:47.199
of the defenders. Does that make
sense, It's like it's like the audiences.

502
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:50.079
No. I mean, I'm not
saying you should do anything, but

503
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.880
no, no, no, he
shouldn't do anything. But I like the

504
00:37:54.920 --> 00:38:00.880
fact that that that the crowd is
you weren't you weren't to be there,

505
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:06.000
and you protect them. And we
do appreciate that because you all have a

506
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:07.760
little bit of an ownership with them
as well, because you've had so many

507
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:13.719
connections with them. We've seen it
and we appreciate it definitely, and thank

508
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.480
you all for doing that because that
means that you care. And we're trying

509
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:20.320
to put on a great event and
an up great product. We just want

510
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.039
people to come and have fun and
enjoy themselves. But yes, they're going

511
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:27.719
to have the really scared big guy
that's trying to be tough, and you

512
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.639
know what, we just brush it
off and our actors, our professionals and

513
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.119
they know what they're doing. And
what I will say too is that is

514
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:37.199
the talent is the heart of fright
Fest. Without a tell, there's no

515
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:42.920
question. So we do everything in
our power on the management team to make

516
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.079
sure that they're having not only a
safe work environment, but you know,

517
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:51.199
an encouraging and and just you know
fun work environment as well. So us

518
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:52.880
on the management team, we're out
there every night, all night. I

519
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.639
could show you my Apple Watch statistics
on the amount of laughs I do around

520
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:02.239
that part. But yeah, so
it's it's always good. Okay. I

521
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:08.440
am very excited to announce all of
you today that making its appearance in maze

522
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:23.719
form at frid Fest twenty twenty three
is the conjuror. That's good. Mark

523
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.519
said not to leave to the couple
of people who were leaving. We have

524
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:34.039
some exciting stuff to talk about,
so we Yeah, I wanted to break

525
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.079
through the Q and A first there
because we knew would be inundated with questions

526
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.840
if we dropped some this knowledge on
you guys first. But we'll be at

527
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:44.039
our booth after this to talk through
some things if y'all have any questions and

528
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:47.559
stuff. But we're very excited to
be partnering with Warner Brothers and bringing this

529
00:39:47.800 --> 00:40:00.239
amazing, amazing movie to life at
frid Fest twenty twenty three. So oh,

530
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:06.239
it's our thirtieth anniversary, rights our
birthday, and all of you are

531
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:12.119
hardcore fans and we appreciate and love
all of you guys. So for twenty

532
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:22.320
twenty three, we are going to
give you a gift. So for twenty

533
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:27.719
twenty three, ladies and gentlemen,
in May's form, we are bringing you

534
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:42.639
saw Ted two Fright Fast, so
not one but two ips come into Magic

535
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:51.000
Mountain this year. Once again,
super excited to be partnering the lions Gate

536
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.119
on this project, and this is
going to be one you won't want to

537
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:57.760
miss. So we are we are
entering our thirty years. We wanted to

538
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:07.800
celebrate correctly. We are going I'm
Big at Fright Fast twenty twenty three.

539
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.920
So as I mentioned everybody, that's
that we'll be down at our booth after

540
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.199
this. That that does wrap up
all the surprises so far, so more

541
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:22.960
nights than ever, more mazes than
ever, eight mazes this year at six

542
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.880
Flags Fright Fast, So come see
us. We're excited to see you there.

543
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:34.280
That's it. Welcome to fright Fest
twenty twenty three. Everybody, Thank

544
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.679
You, Thank You, thank You, Thank you, Everybody, Thank You.

545
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:46.000
Today's episode was produced and edited by
me Philip Hernandez, with post production

546
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:51.760
by David Swope and original music composed
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547
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.280
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